DOCS AND JUSTICE

Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 26/03/2007 - 18:02

(Editor: On 30/April2007 at 10:15 the TITLE of this post has been changed on request of a Mr Paul Turner claiming to be a representative of the Queensland Department of Justice. Mr Turner advised that a party named in this post has no issue with the content of this post other than with the original title.)
(Editor: On 03/April/2009 at 14:00 the NAME and ADDRESS of the author of the letter below have been removed on request of a person claiming to be that person and using a hotmail e-mail address.)

This e-mail is being sent to:
The Magistrate
The United Nations
The Governor General
The Attorney General
Premier Peter Beatie, MP
The President of Lone Fathers Ass
Mayor of Mackay Julie Boyd
Channel 10, 7, 9, ABC
ABC radio
John Laws
The Sunday Mail
and others:

25th March 2007.

To whom it may concern.
I am writing this letter to attempt to have justice done.

I have been falsely accused of a horrendous crime and I must now stand trial for this and I do understand as to why.

How ever this is not the major problem at this time, this plea for help is against the Department of Child safety and to the fact that they are as far as anyone can see operating totally beyond their powers and authority.

Listed below are three different accounts of their abuse of their power and the system in place.

Firstly my partner has had her children repeatedly removed from her even though we obeyed the law and conditions of my bail.

The first occasion that they were removed was when I was first charged and she did not see them for three weeks. During this time there was one occasion that one of the children broke away from her mother and came to me and hugged me, this sent DOCS into a frenzy of accusations and harassment to the eldest of the two girls. On one occasion the solicitor wanted the names of the children's fathers and asked for them but also included the statement if she knows who they are. This is a low act by anyone but being DOCS they get away with it

This second time that the children have been removed from her is because of me seeing the children when a magistrate and the police said that my bail conditions are now changed and I could go home. As this order was made late on a Friday afternoon my partner and I waited until the following Monday to obtain a copy of the court document to verify that it was correct.

A couple of days later DOCS came to where my partner was living and as I was there got another magistrate to over rule this decision and took the children. I was only there on the day they turned up to discuss my moving back in and the children were not at the house at the time. I do not live with my partner as proven by the change of address acceptance signed by a Mackay Police officer. When these workers attended the house I went to see who was at the door as my partner was busy at the time. These workers did not show identification and when they said you are R...... I replied yes however they did not ask my last name. This is the first time that I had seen these workers.

The following day the DOCS workers had two police cars with them when they came to pick up the children and then led the children five doors down in the company of the police down the street to where they had parked their cars. The police officers actually had to question a friend in the house at the time to find out what was going on as they thought they were investigating a domestic disturbance.

The children were then sent to two (2) different homes in which to live, one of these children is only five (5) years old and is understandably upset about what is happening. The house where the five (5) year old is living has up to between six to seven children there as well as the carer who is a grandmother of only some of the children living there as well as one of her middle aged adult sons. The carer is also under investigation for child abuse against one of her natural grandsons. The last time that this child was taken when she came back to her mother she started to misbehave and light fires in the house she also would not sleep on her own or with out a night light this is out of the ordinary for this child as she has never had a problem prior to this happening. The question must be asked is where are all these children sleeping?

The eldest child is fourteen (14) years old and has started to self harm, the DOCS worker stated in court that the child only had a couple of small marks on her. The accompanying photos taken on Sunday the 18th March 2007 at the Mackay Christian City Church prove otherwise. This can also be verified by contacting the pastor of the church as both he and his wife saw the marks on the child on Sunday the 11th march 2007. Their phone numbers are 49530042 or 0411208381. On the 23rd of March 2007 it was arranged by Beth a docs worker that both the girls were to be taken to church on the Sunday the 25th of March as it was the eldest Childs birthday and the arrangement was that they would have contact with their mother on this day for the birthday however even though the carer had plenty of notice and had agreed to supervise this contact she and her family had a large party on the Saturday night and was unfit to drive the next morning because of her state on the Sunday the contact was unable to occur and their mother was left standing at the church waiting for her children with presents for the eldest child in hand.

My partner had to go to court on the 14th march 2007 at 4.00 pm to get back the custody of her children; the magistrate said that he would defer his decision until the following morning.

On the 15th march 2007 at 8:45am she attended court and magistrate Ross Risson stated that he was not inclined to grant the 4 week order that DOCS had applied for and said that the children would be returned to her. However magistrate Risson said that he would allow DOCS until 2.00 pm to find any reason why he should rule otherwise.

At 2.00 p.m. that afternoon the case was resumed and my partner was served inside the court room a new order that DOCS had lodged at 1.30 pm that day. This order included that docs wanted full custody of her children for two (2) years. These new orders were an amendment of the previous orders.

Magistrate Ross Risson asked DOCS if they had come up with nothing new to which DOCS answered no they hadn't, and he stated that he would not grant the new 4 week order to DOCS,

But because the new custody order had been rushed through it was heard straight away even before her Barrister or solicitor had looked at the new order and Magistrate Ross Risson granted them the new order he had given them time to draw up. This matter is to be heard on the 18th of April 2007 after another mediation meeting on the 12th of April 2007.

In September 2006 my partner submitted an affidavit to the courts which resulted in the children being returned to her, one of the conditions was that the children had no contact with me at any time. Magistrate Ross Risson stated that there was to be mediation and the children appointed their own lawyer. DOCS did not get in touch with my partner until a week before the mediation was to go ahead and it was for a chat before the meditation however the children's lawyer still had not assessed or interviewed the children or anyone else for that matter. This did not stop DOCS and the mediation went ahead without the children's voices being heard.

I was not allowed to be in this room as I was told only the father is allowed into these discussions, but to these children I am the only father that they have known in their lives. The DOCS workers wanted to draw up a plan for the safety of the children but that included not having any contact with me for one (1) year. It was later on in the month that a safety plan was drawn up with out my partner or her lawyer being present; my partner went to the DOCS office to draw this plan up but was told that the case workers were not there. DOCS made another appointment but my partner's lawyer had failed to get in touch with them to say she would not be there as she was moving house.

One of the workers at DOCS (Haley Caldwell) has stated to my partner that if I was in jail they wouldn't be doing this to her and she has also stated that regardless of if I am found innocent I would never be able to see the children again without supervision* this statement was repeated in court on the 18th March 2007 (* I have a taped recording of the two (2) previous statements from DOCS).

On the DOCS affidavits that they have presented to the courts as true and correct, there has been mistakes in every one but the court has accepted them regardless, but these are supposed to be perfect otherwise they should be dismissed as false. How are they still being accepted?

The second case that I bring to your notice is where a child was molested and then told her mother; the mother then took the child to the juvenile aid bureau (J.A.B.) at the Mackay police station. This took about four hours so the child had had to relate what had happened to her twice. After leaving J.A.B. the mother and the child went home, one (1) hour after they had returned home DOCS turned up and took the child away. The mother of this child was not allowed to see the child during the week but the child was allowed to return home every weekend.

How this child was allowed to be taken in the first place when she needed her mother to love and nurture her through this difficult time, or is this example of the DOCS here in Mackay going above their legal responsibilities.

The reason I have not included any names in this letter is due to the fact that DOCS can at any time make accusations and take the children without justification and with police back up.

I have spoken to a lot of solicitors and barristers about this matter and the overwhelming consensus from them all is that the workers at DOCS are to put it in the politest words of one barrister the lowest scum that you could meet and the ones in Mackay are the worst as people are too scared of losing their children to do anything about it, and are not held accountable to their superiors.

I am sending this e-mail to every radio, television station and news paper in Queensland as well as all those in power I can find.

There is a great fear in the community of these people and their ability to what seems to be kidnapping of children and that is why the parents of these children do not complain about the way they and their children are treated.

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you will be go to jail

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 30/06/2007 - 08:31.

I have know the male who has posted the orginal messages over 20 years. I know first hand how cruel, wrapped and distorted he is especially to children. I was so please to hear that the police finally got enough evidence to be able to charge him and hopefully he will go to jail and never be able to harm another innocent child again. This man has been and I know because he has told me been under investation by police and DOC's for a very long period of time. Hope you rot in jail and get everything you deserve.

Not credible

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 18/05/2007 - 03:26.

I am not making any judgements as to what is true or not in regards to this discussion but I must say that essentially every post in here seems to be presented in a way that is "shifty".

The emotional and condemning language, the inadequately explained assertions, lack of context and inadequete information call the credibility of these posts into question.

This doesn't mean that anybody is or isn't telling the truth, it just means that the people here don't seem to be preparing their arguments in a very convincing (and rationale) way.

I know many people fighting "DOCS" departments around Australia come from disadvantaged backgrounds, and I guess this makes it harder for people some people to fight them.

I myself have a serious problem with "DOCS" (called FamiliesSA) in my state in South Australia.

Despite the fact I consider myself rational and the sort of person that puts great effort into providing factually valid and accurate information, I myself doubt that I can fight the monsterous system (seriously that is how it seems up against me at the moment) even though I know the accusations against me are absolutely false (as they are accusations about what i have done, and I most certainly know what i have and haven't done).

I am not sure in this forum that the discussion is mature enough and balanced enough that I want to voice my situation, not with all the nasty words etc when I am so strongly craving to find an outlet to "offload" what is severely bothering me.

All I will currently say is that such departments DO get it wrong and suspect people of being pedophiles who are NOT pedophiles, including people who have personally deeply supported and fought for the wellbeing and happiness of severely disadvantaged youth and children (and i think its fair to say made a significant difference). Once certain workers have got an "instinct" about someone, they project that reality into the situation. Gossip occurs and various foster carers etc (who may instinctively distrust males themselves in such situations, and especially males from disadvantaged backgrounds who are "ugly" etc) probe children in their care convinced they need to uncover some "hidden" demon. They don't seem to acknowledge or see such behaviour when you carefully point it out to them, they will often say they quickly say they doubt so and so would act in any way that is not "professional" to the highest degree... Flawed interviews by social workers occur with leading and suggestive questioning and techniques which do not follow best practice forensic interviewing guidelines. Impressionable children separated for periods such as 1.5 years with minimal contact with an adult make comments (seriously quite benign in the contect of things) which are taken as "suggestive" that something must have occured and the whole process of determination to find something is "refueled". Suddently comments come out. Its confirmed! They knew it all along! In my case as obviously i am carefully and partially refering to, in my case various children had complained to me that various social workers and foster carers and been heaviliy insinuating what sort of person they "suspect" or "know" me to be for some time. Comparing me to "Michael Jackson". Saying i support them because "i must want something", telling them bad stories of what certain men do to children. One of the children (not one but two apparently who have accused me of beingi involved in some form of sexually inappropriate acts as far as i am aware on "single" occasions. (specifics have not been given to me)- one of the children for example was quite clear on the perception the social workers have of me saying they "think you are a pedophile". This child was DISTRESSED that they were thinking that way and still to this day being the oldest- completely trusts me. I complained BEFORE any accusations were made that i felt that various social workers and moreso foster carers were making inappropriate comments about me to the children. On of the main foster carers for example I am not joking said when they meant me that a "bad omen" had occured- they are superstituious. This is seriously true. I don't paint black and white pictures, yes they are superstitious and have caused serious damage i feel but they otherwise actually nurture and look after that child reasonably well. If you don't think that after 1.5 years, that children are acutely influenced by such perspectives... I mean imagine the prominent adults in a childrens life for an amount of time, acting as if at night time a "kidnapped" might abduct them from the window. The adults hint at this, make comments about this, whisper about this around the children. Other adults do as well. Do you not think the children woudl start to worry that a kidnapper might come through the window? Its the same sort of psychology. I have learnt some awful truths which i was totally naive to before this whole process started:

<1> If a child loves you, and has a strong bond with you, and you have genuiningly treated this child (peforming the most humble non-biased self-accessment) with decency, kindness and a highly responsible level of behaviour, do not believe or have "faith" that separated from you 1.5 years (besides occasional small visits) that the perspectives of that child cannot be completely shifted against you in ways utterly disturbing and offensive. 1.5 years is SO long for a child. A child who a few months before this all occured was blatantly complaining how they missed you and now suddently doesn't want to see you because "they dont feel the same way anymore".

<2> That innocent people can be accussed of "sexually inappropriate" behaviour with a child, that this is not just some rare, freak occurance like being struck by lightening.

<3> That worst, most horrifying and disturbing of all, that the possibility exists that the child may believe these events did happen. And most people (even educated one) do not have the knowledge or insight to even understand that this could be possible.

<4> That people you see on TV who kill themselves after being accused of molesting children (many are probably guilty) but I had never considered the possibility that being accused of such things may actually drive an innocent person to suicide. But believe me such thoughts will frequently pass your mind as they are mine. Because it is the most horrid poison, it is a shattering of reality that destroys your faith and hope in the competence and decency of mankind and that has damage severely the most precious bond you have had with a child and is in itself a horrible wrong and abuse of that child. You don't dare talk to anyone cause you don't trust peoples judgement. I have almost become paranoid towards other people with the most simple things. People will say quite simple comments about unimportant things and i will get angry and start questioning why they think that, as if i just don't trust peoples reasoning with anything. I don't trust ANYONE. I am having trouble sleeping. I am waking up in the middle of the night upset about this, like a nightmare i want to jump out of but i cant because its real.

<5> Sexual abuse of children is a HORRID thing. It occurs, and its a BIG problem, but i have no doubt now that innocent people are surely sitting in gaol, and that for all i know 10-20% of such people in gaol (who may be violently assaulted and treated with sadism and lack of compassion) maybe very well be actually innocent (especially if the "interviewing" of children and such testimony is allowed to be used as primary evidence- i dont know- i can only find information on American court cases). Children don't lie malliciously about this sort of thing or at least THAT is rare, but their reality is distorted by people who to be frank are really on a bit of a witch hunt, and i dont make any generalisations but it HAS happened in my case.

I have not been charged, I do NOT know if that will happen (nothing would surprise me any more and believe me when i say i have NO money to defend myself). But the bond with two children I LOVE has been poisoned, even knows other children and youth involved from the same situaiton adamantly stand behind me (with no hostility towards other two children, i have STRONGLY stated they are not to blame).

I would also like to state I am in no way regarded as responsible for the original situation with their mother that got them put into care in the first place and i am not regarded as being responsible for that but in the end what i have stated above has happened.

Well now i have babbled like everyone else. Maybe I will tell you people the situation later, its very complex and long however.

I do apologise if i sounded like i was attacking what anyone said in this discussion, i was just saying you need support your position better (don't think anyone else will do it effectively).
Also I know i should edit this, its disorganised but i am going to bed.

to credible

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 18/05/2007 - 07:39.

Your post reads just like the rest here I have read, same content, same emotion, but just a lot longer.
This forum has a number of benefits and one being the chance for people to express themselves, even if you don't understand them it helps them. So don't be so critical even if you don't quite follow it , we all Know what they are saying deep down and need our support .

As another person who has

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 29/04/2007 - 13:47.

As another person who has first hand knowledge of this case and have known this man for too many years, I can tell you that this man would sell his soul to the devil to be able to put the blame onto someone else and at times I believe this man has done so. His interest in young girls go back many years and have used his own children to lure new victims in to the point where his children has suffered for his crimes in not being able to lead normal lives. One child even going to the point of trying to kill herself by overdosing on drugs. This man is a compuslive liar. Did he mention that he had a "sexual Harassment" complaint put against him while in the course of his work or that he told his work colleges that the reason he was going to the police station so often was because of his ex-wife who was supposedly to have stabbed someone and was on the run. I know his ex-wife is alive and well and not under any investigation and still in the Mackay district. this man likes to take the law of both the Federal (Family court) and Criminal court and twist it to suit himself. He has had all parental rights removed from him through Family Court but yet he stills defies it by using others to make contact with his child, who he has a charge against him in relation to this child. U asked for proof, well all the proof is in the hands of the police. If i had copies of the pictures that the police found on his computer, you would be sick to the stomach. So like the rest of us, you will have to wait until this man goes to trail and gets convicted. We can only hope that it is sooner than later.

Hello I though i would add

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 15/05/2007 - 19:15.

Hello

I though i would add REPLY to those who are dealing with dept of child safety

I Have been involved with dept of child safety since 2004, it all started when someone started harrassing me and the police said no one was there it was me i was the 'culpret' so they removed the children for there safety and took out a child protection order for 2 years and i had a crap lawyer which said just sign it will be easier, so we did and in the mean time i fell pregnant to my husband with our daughter soon after we got married we we're refered to reunifcation service which was completed postivley and we were sucessful in getting the children home and we had regular visits from dept of child safety that closed the case.

then on 5th january 2007 the child protection QLD and QLD child protection police turned up with a warrant of me knownling possessing child explotation on my computer i was deverstated as worked so well with the dept in the past! and they took dvd's digital camera and computers they removed the children on RISK OF sexual harm , mental harm, phscological, emotinal harm what a load of crap they have filed for another 2 year child protection guardianship order with NO EVIDENCE our lawyer is contesting the order we go back to court on may to a court ordered confrence as we are contesting as there is no evedince of harm and if they don't give us the children back on a supervision order or something our lawyer is taking it to trial where we will win! we have lost time an moment because of a false allergation made by someone in sydney that doesnt' even know us! ( FROM A INTERNET FORUM REGO DETAILS REGISTERED TO ME AS I SUPPOUSLY WENT ON TO A FORUM AND ADMITTED TO THE FORUM IAM INTO CHILD PORN I STILL HAVENT SEEN COPIES OF CHAT LOGS)
THE POLICE HAVEN'T CHARGED US AS THERE IS NO PORN OR EVIDENCE POLICE CLAIM THEY STRONGLY BELIEVE WE'RE GUILTY WHY ARN'T WE CHARGED!!!!! COP COULDNT DO A JOB RIGHT IF THEY TRYED TOO! SEEM WE WENT TO THEM AND COMPLAINED ABOUT BREAK-INS AND TURNED IT AROUND ON US AGAIN!!

they claim they need to take the order out because the RISK OF is too significant
they police claim they have comp analyed by may 2!! but still need the order why THERE WAS NEVER ANY CHILD PORNO ON MY COMPUTER!!! MAYBE THE DEPT ARE SICK FUCKS THAT HAVE IT ON THERE COMPS AND THE COPS??? FUNNY THERE IS SO MANY CORRUPTION IN QLD OF LATE BEING CAUGHT....................................................... NEVER RING IPSWICH THEM CUNTS ARE LIKE THE MAFIA THEY ARE CORRUPT AS THEY COME DON'T TRUST DEPT WORKERS NO MATTER WHAT THEY TELL YOU THEY ARE THE DEVIL I HOPE AND PRAY THEM CUNTS GO TO THE DEVIL AND SUFFER WHEN THEY TAKE GODS CHILDREN THEY WILL PAY ................ THEY ARE EXPLOITING OUR KIDS BY THERE WORK THEY WORK IN THE POSTION ALL BASED ON MONEY $$$$$$$$$$$$$ IS ALL THEY SEE!

To As another person who has...

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 05/05/2007 - 16:11.

How in the world would YOU know the contents of his computer? Knowing how people gossip and make up something out of nothing, it sounds like you are fabricating. Admittedly, I don't know anything about the situation, but you sound like you are pulling ideas out of thin air, just as a DoCS worker would habitually do.

I'm certainly not defending abuse of any kind, but you are losing your credibility by acting that you know everything about the situation as if you have LIVED IT DIRECTLY (even from the viewpoint of the police). You certainly can't learn anything for certain just by reading or watching the news. Also, what makes you think a "complaint" someone makes against another is always valid? I'm not that ignorant. Not yet, anyway.

How in the World..........

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 13/05/2007 - 12:14.

When you are personally involved in the case I guess you do get to know what evidence the police have, especially when you are asked to look at pictures taken from his computer to identify the children in those pictures. If you knew this man for the same amount of years that I have and witnessed his behaviour and the way he operates then maybe you would understand why it has taken so long for the truth to come out. I have spent too many years living under his lies and now that I'm free from his clutches I no longer need to. The worse thing with cases involving children is that the guilty person, even though he may end up going to jail, name is not released to the press so his lies that he has told will probably still go on being believed.

How else would i know i had

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 12/05/2007 - 11:03.

How else would i know i had to view them and see if i identified anyone that was a dumb question as if u had read that properly it says i know the man personally like personally .u know wat i mean by the sounds of it u wouldnt understand that either.

you seem to know a lot about

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 04/05/2007 - 13:31.

you seem to know a lot about this but as per usual you are too gutless to identify yourself therefore it has to be assumed that you are either a DoCS worker or someone who is trying to set this person up for something have the guts to identify yourself or shut up. the person who you are accusing dosnt seem to have anything to hide so why should you or are you scared that the truth will come out and you will be found a liar. it is easy to hide behind anominity. so it seems that this man is telling the truth and is being falsely accused.

to DOCS AND CORRUPT MAGISTRATE

Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 27/03/2007 - 08:33.

Your story echoes so many similarities to ours.

We have been attacked by this corrupt train wreck since 1995 and are still fighting them.

My false charges were thrown out of court yet they still continue to keep our children, even though I passed a risk assessment and a family report, court ordered by an independent party was in our favour!

We now have a new court date and hope to win, this is now set down for a trial where we will be able to cross examine their workers and expose their lies and corruption.

GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR CASE OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU!

DoCS and Corrupt Magistrate(s)

Submitted by Lisa (not verified) on Wed, 30/05/2007 - 21:40.

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE

Provide us with your everlasting legal representation.

We all have many, many cross-examinating questions we need answered.
Who has the legal balls to go up and TELL THE MAGISTRATE what's really going on?

Which state are they in?

YOU ARE SO WRONG

Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 07/04/2007 - 21:43.

I hope u r wrong in saying that ur story echoes the one above because the person above would not be having so much trouble if he had of kept his hands off little girls

how do you know that this

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 04/05/2007 - 13:34.

how do you know that this man has done this as you have hidden your name so that you can just spread lies and rumors it seems. Or are you just a DoCS worker that is trying to save your own ass as you have broken the law too many times .

I am not a docs worker and

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 12/05/2007 - 10:59.

I am not a docs worker and after the trial i will reveal who i am and the outcome of the trial i hope to god he goes to jail. if he doesnt then i do beleive someone is defiantely corrupt as the evidence against is mighty strong

Evidence is open to speculation...

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 30/05/2007 - 21:46.

EVIDENCE provided by DoCS Qld, Vic etc., is not only subject to interpretation, it is all completely made up. They fill gaps with nonsense BECAUSE THEY CAN.

And that's all there is to it. Once they dislike you - their Legislation allows them to make decisions based on their 'feelings' (of which they have no control and use their power to punish with).

It's systems abuse the children are suffering from and Australia is not ready yet to admit to it and so we have no healing in place - nor admission, for that matter.

They are young, inexperienced and oh look - Cairns has an influx of improts - direct from anywhere else in the world, with incomplete Degrees, they have been in the country some 6-12 weeks and off they go. They are offended if you call them a name for being just what you called them. IGNORANT to the cause they are dealing with.

Don't think for one moment the Govt. is not aware - in fact, the Govt. has is so that a good portion of our next generation (and the last one), will need to be registered on the ever over-funded MENTAL HEALTH SYSTEM.

This way, they have control over a WHOLE generation.

Enough said.

Join our DoCS Lobby Grou now by emailing me at. We have an exciting trip to Canberra in plan.

y2kassist @ hotmail.com

to you are so wrong

Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 09/04/2007 - 10:54.

Is that true? Or is it another false allegation form DOCS.
If it is true, well that makes things different.

Oh No It Is True

Submitted by Anonymous on Thu, 12/04/2007 - 23:05.

I know for a fact it is true and docs would not have anything to do with this man if it wasnt. I am not from docs but i do know it is true i know the girl.

To oh no its true

Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 14/04/2007 - 17:19.

Ok great, then please provide some proof so we can all see, thanks.

PROOF?????

Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 16/04/2007 - 15:34.

And just what proof do u propose I put on here hey? What would u like a written testament???????

I know the girl I know wats going on and I have seen the after affects of what it can do to a little girl that put all her trust in a man that used the fact that she liked him so much as a father figure that he abused the trust that she had in him.

I will not name names like he has this was supposed to be a private matter that is now waiting to go to trial.

But he has straight out displayed his name for the whole world to see and after the trial is over everyone will know what he has done.

Thank the lord for docs and the legal system especially at times like this when they do everything they can to find out the truth.

And protect those that wouldn't dare say anything about him because they're scared they will lose the love he so freely gives them whether it be legal or not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To proof

Submitted by Anonymous on Thu, 19/04/2007 - 17:55.

So you have no proof, alright lets wait to see what happens.
Dont hide behind crap if its real prove it, if you cant then dont say anything at all, for all we know you are just another docs work spewing your venom on the innocent. But if it is true then I hope he gets what he deserves.

Thats not wat I said

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 20/04/2007 - 17:32.

Dont put words in my mouth I said wat proof do u propose I put on here not oh wow i dont have proof and another thing i wont shut up about it and we will see wat happens I cant wait to watch the look on the mans face that has done this oh thats right he already named himself in the top story. I dont think I am above the law and I dont think that if i keep trying to gather evidence about other matters that that will help in the case we are talking about. He will pay for wat he has done. and I am sure that will make the magistrate even more corrupt wont it by saying he is guilty.Please if u do the crime u do the time and well not only will he be doing the time the little girls he just happened to come in contact with are also paying for the crime he committed. There is not one bit of proof i would care to put on here to put those little girls through more hell please.

Thinking before speaking is helpful.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 02/05/2007 - 21:04.

Anyone can climb on a soapbox on the net and make accusations about someone - anyone. It is a lowbrow being that incites a public debate with ill thought out comments that involve minors and potentially - legal cases.

You place all parties at risk for nothing more than the chance to fun your vicious mouth... whether you know the people or not - you do not have a legal right to make allegations you know full well you are not able to make proof for public.

Only cowards heckle the harassed.

BEEP BEEP wrong again LOL I

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 03/05/2007 - 22:05.

BEEP BEEP wrong again LOL I have all the proof in the world and I do know the man personally. thank u and not one is a false accusation.Very real and accurate

To proof

Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 21/04/2007 - 19:40.

Thank you, thats all we wanted , the truth!
SO YOU ARE A DOCS WORKER .
And like I said if he is guilty rot in hell.
But so far you have proved yourself to be a liar, so what do we believe.

i am truly sorry that u

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 27/04/2007 - 13:23.

i am truly sorry that u beleive i work for Docs u couldnt be more wrong. but let me say i will be there the day he hopefully gets to go and rot in hell. I am a relative of the child not a docs worker that is why i said i have seen first hand. Docs have not even had anything to do with this child since her statement was given thy have only been interested obviously in getting the other girls that they can away from him. And where can u show me tha I am a liar not once have i lied.

So ... what are YOU doing about it?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 02/05/2007 - 21:09.

If YOU are a relative of this allegedly abused child, what did you do about it?

Or are you one of these people that manage to acquire a relative anytime 'proof' is needed because no one can impeach a 'relative tale of bullshit'?

You're silly, you're a trouble maker and you truly have no idea whatsoever of how the process works - it's obvious in the drivel you write here...

Go play with yourself and leave the serious folks who live the trials in peace to find a solution that doesn't include tripping over self servicing little 'inventive worms' like yourself...

Unless you have proof you will lodge and run the gauntlet in todays world - risking YOURSELF instead of trading on a vulnerable man and an allegedly vulnerable childs plight for self gratification.

It's sickening enough you promote the sponsorship of state tyrany and the destruction of justice in Australia - it's terrifying to think that you have so little else to do that you are too ignorant to know how clearly your ignorance shows...

Some people live the exciting you try to fabricate... get a clue before you make up new and improved version of bullshit stories, Sport...

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 03/05/2007 - 22:01.

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL Little do u know i dont need to use the relative bullshit love i am a very close relative and i did do something about it straight away but thanx for wondering and caring so much. They now have all the proof they need from the child in question. Get a life love.

So ... what are YOU doing about it?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 02/05/2007 - 21:09.

If YOU are a relative of this allegedly abused child, what did you do about it?

Or are you one of these people that manage to acquire a relative anytime 'proof' is needed because no one can impeach a 'relative tale of bullshit'?

You're silly, you're a trouble maker and you truly have no idea whatsoever of how the process works - it's obvious in the drivel you write here...

Go play with yourself and leave the serious folks who live the trials in peace to find a solution that doesn't include tripping over self servicing little 'inventive worms' like yourself...

Unless you have proof you will lodge and run the gauntlet in todays world - risking YOURSELF instead of trading on a vulnerable man and an allegedly vulnerable childs plight for self gratification.

It's sickening enough you promote the sponsorship of state tyrany and the destruction of justice in Australia - it's terrifying to think that you have so little else to do that you are too ignorant to know how clearly your ignorance shows...

Some people live the exciting you try to fabricate... get a clue before you make up new and improved version of bullshit stories, Sport...

And when i said i dont think

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 27/04/2007 - 17:20.

And when i said i dont think i am above the law i was having a dig at the man who named himself up there because he has been trying to trap people and he knows who i am talking about, into saying things about other people to try and get the limelight off himself. Which I am sorry mate is not going to happen not if i have anything to do with it. And now that more people are "supposedly" coming forward i dont have any worries about him being convicted at all. I knew there wasn't just one. And if I sound proffessional enuff to sound like someone that knows the courts and docs well thank u i am learning

to the docs worker or involved somehow

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 27/04/2007 - 18:44.

who cares, you obviously are a liar and don't tell the whole truth so, what ever!
Like It was said in other comments if guilty rot in hell.
But your credibility has gone out the window.

DOCS WORKER ???????????

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 28/04/2007 - 10:11.

DOCS Worker??????? LOL U have to be kidding me right I know the man first hand That is how I Know wat he is like thanx for the compliment though. If I was a docs worker I would do everything in my power to make sure he never had anything to do with children ever again. AND not one lie is in anything I have said. so watever. U seem very involved urself or is this the actual man that named himself for the world to see. Is that u russell hey? If it isnt then i dont understand why u would want proof. the courts will see all the proof they need thanx. I refuse to display the proof of who it is and where and how and what happened over the internet for the whole world to see thank u But i certainly will show all the proof without naming the girls after th trial. C U THEN

So... you're a Troll?

Submitted by Callamity (not verified) on Mon, 07/05/2007 - 03:19.

I take it since you excel at 'LOL' and absolutely nothing else but hype-babble that you are actually a Troll ... and not a very good one at that!

I have a life, thanks for insisting ... I also have the experience to know a Troll when I meet one - and you are placing your alleged proof AND case in peril by opening your fool mouth.

YOU would have been told to be quiet because that is the LAW.

You are therefore either an idiot or a liar or ... a trouble making cross between both.

Why are you trolling boards telling stories to make yourself look 'special' - some of the people here are grassroots heroes ... are you that lonely and jealous that you have to start trolling to get some attention?

Cheers

Megan Love
www.elequity.com

Someone not afraid to hide behind a screen name!

To the SOMEHOW INVOLVED

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 29/04/2007 - 16:56.

Or didn't you read that bit, if you are not aDocs worker fine, but you are behaving like one.
Like its been said in every post ,if guilty rot in hell!!!!!!!.
Now get off your high horse and do something more constructive and positive with your time, and don't waste ours.
AND ONCE AGAIAN IF GUILTY ROT IN HELL BECAUSE HE MUST BE SCUM ,OK are you happy now.

how can you say that you

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 04/05/2007 - 08:08.

how can you say that you have proof when you are to gutless to leave your name so that it can be proven that you are a DoCs worker. it seems that you have the the desire to discredit anyone who attempts to show the corruption that DoCs is capabile of.

not gutless just smart

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 13/05/2007 - 21:26.

I am not gutless i am smart at least anything i say on here cannot be used in the trial against me when i testify thank u but i am sure now his letter right up the top will be shown to the so called corrupt judge and docs workers.

Calm Down

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 29/04/2007 - 17:32.

There was no need for that My god i am up in the air about this for christs sake understand when such a close relative is done over like that no matter wat is said u take offence i am sorry to have angered u but i do get testy when it comes to this matter. And it makes my blood boil. Again I am sorry but please understand

to above

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 29/04/2007 - 17:39.

We do, and we understand to the best of our ability, obviously not as you do because its not our family but believe me like its been said if guilty hope he gets what he deserves and it would make any normal decent persons blood boil to.

CORRECTION

Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 27/03/2007 - 19:41.

Sorry I meant 2005! was still half asleep

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